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I know at this point it's probably impossible that you've not heard of this tragedy, likely reeling from it as I am.  

I wanted to wait for today to see if more solid concrete information comes to surface.  Yesterday, in the aftermath, much was misunderstood and unknown, but how can we ever really know how something such as this could happen?

When I first heard "School Shooting"  I figured what has become all too typical of a child feeling slighted and unaccepted by fellow students and exacted revenge violently.  Not that that scenario is understandable in the slightest, but this story is even further far fetched.   This is a very young adult killing, what is likely unknown to the suspect, very young children and faculty of a school that it seems he doesn't have current ties to.

My heart is SICK from this story.  My blessing and condolences to these families and community.

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Makes me scared about LGMS.  If you think about it, you walk up to the front, go through the first set of doors and there's the staircase to go up to the classes.  Never really thought about it much before.  Plus on the backside where you would drive around for car rider line, they gate is opened to get to the greenhouses and to the portables.  Not sure if anyone is out there more, but that inner staircase worries me.  A lot of folks are requesting metal detectors.

My babysitter asked me "did you hear about what happened today?" and I gave her the "no no no" look because I didn't want her to say anything in front of my kids. I just hate to have to explain why, when there really is no answer.

I got this off Facebook, of all places. Supposedly, Morgan Freeman had some words to say about the tragedy. I like it. What do you think?

Morgan Freeman's statement about these random shootings....

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you kn
ow the name of a single victim of Columbine? Distur
bed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."
I'm still in complete shock. I cannot wrap my brain around an elementary school. I just can't accept it. We don't have TV service so I'm not getting the constant media coverage, but have been looking it up online every chance I get. I'd shed a few tears as reading over the last couple days, but last night I saw the list of victims and their dates of birth and I just sobbed.

I remember when I was a kid during the Cuban Missile Crisis we had drills in school. I hate to have to suggest but maybe our schools in today's society need to add a drill to their fire drills.Better to be prepared than to be shocked by the unthinkable.  

Doug you are right.  I remember growing up and doing not just fire drills, but bomb drills.  They had us get under our desks on our knees with heads tucked. They also did that in the hallway if you were out of the class at the time.  Of course looking back on it now, that doing that would most likely not have saved you.  It basically brought you closer to your backside to kiss good-bye. 

But, yes they should do not just fire drills, but also tornado drills and drills in case some nut decides to come in and have a repeat of Friday in CT. 

Kids in schools do need to be prepared for emergencies like this and I support all and any efforts my kids' school makes to tighten security.  Yes these things are rare - but who knows when/where it will next happen. I would also like someone to explain logically (that is rationally without simply shouting about the 2nd amendment) why this country allows people to aquire automatic assault weapons such as was used in this latest event.  In my mind, there is NO justifiable reason for the average person to desire, need or acquire assault weapons.  Morgan Freeman may well say this is not about guns - but it most definitely is.  Sure, sickos will get weapons but really, do we have to make it so damn easy to access them?!  Why does some gun freak's second amendment rights trump the right to life of 20 innocent children and six of their adult caretakers?  

The issue was an irresponsible mother who knew her son was mentally ill but did not take precautions to properly secure her weapons.  The real question should be what to do with those that are mentally ill?  Lock them up?  Demand that they take meds?  The shooter's parents were extremely well off (I read that the mother got 250,000 per year in alimony and Dad was a highly paid employee of GE) so they had access to healthcare including mental health care.  Why did she (and the father) not seek help for him?  Stripping a responsible gun owner of his rights to a weapon of his choice would not prevent these tragedies.  How many llives were taken by Timothy McVeigh who never fired a single shot?


Fallsmama said:

Kids in schools do need to be prepared for emergencies like this and I support all and any efforts my kids' school makes to tighten security.  Yes these things are rare - but who knows when/where it will next happen. I would also like someone to explain logically (that is rationally without simply shouting about the 2nd amendment) why this country allows people to aquire automatic assault weapons such as was used in this latest event.  In my mind, there is NO justifiable reason for the average person to desire, need or acquire assault weapons.  Morgan Freeman may well say this is not about guns - but it most definitely is.  Sure, sickos will get weapons but really, do we have to make it so damn easy to access them?!  Why does some gun freak's second amendment rights trump the right to life of 20 innocent children and six of their adult caretakers?  

Going through this list, 'Always Smiling': Portraits of Conn. Victims I can't help but let the tears fall.  What a sick, sick person that could do this.   To look at 6 year-old babies and think shooting them to their deaths was an answer? It makes me sick to my stomach and it doesn't help that I have a six year-old little girl of my own!   All school/ mass public shootings are dastardly but this is a whole new low of disgust. 

Like I said - sickos will get guns.  Or use other means - I am not denying that.  Nor did I say strip people of their right to bear arms - albeit that I personally think that someone who seeks and derives pleasure from using such an instrument of violence as a leisure pursuit leaves a LOT to be desired, I said that it should not be so easy for people to access semi automatic assault weapons. There is a difference.

Shawn - as the mother of a Kindergartener, those are the same questions and emotions I've had myself.

MonsterMom said:

The issue was an irresponsible mother who knew her son was mentally ill but did not take precautions to properly secure her weapons.  The real question should be what to do with those that are mentally ill?  Lock them up?  Demand that they take meds?  The shooter's parents were extremely well off (I read that the mother got 250,000 per year in alimony and Dad was a highly paid employee of GE) so they had access to healthcare including mental health care.  Why did she (and the father) not seek help for him?  Stripping a responsible gun owner of his rights to a weapon of his choice would not prevent these tragedies.  How many llives were taken by Timothy McVeigh who never fired a single shot?


Fallsmama said:

Kids in schools do need to be prepared for emergencies like this and I support all and any efforts my kids' school makes to tighten security.  Yes these things are rare - but who knows when/where it will next happen. I would also like someone to explain logically (that is rationally without simply shouting about the 2nd amendment) why this country allows people to aquire automatic assault weapons such as was used in this latest event.  In my mind, there is NO justifiable reason for the average person to desire, need or acquire assault weapons.  Morgan Freeman may well say this is not about guns - but it most definitely is.  Sure, sickos will get weapons but really, do we have to make it so damn easy to access them?!  Why does some gun freak's second amendment rights trump the right to life of 20 innocent children and six of their adult caretakers?  

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What about banning the psychotropic drugs and violent video games for all the kiddies?

Ever notice how these types of mass killings didn't happen in the 50s?

"Parents who are horrified by real violence are drowning their children in simulated violence" (by Mike Adams):

http://www.infowars.com/parents-who-are-horrified-by-real-violence-...

Gun control? We need medication control! Newton elementary school shooter Adam Lanza likely on meds; labeled as having 'personality disorder' " (By Mike Adams)

http://www.naturalnews.com/038353_gun_control_psychiatric_drugs_Ada...

Guns vs. Drugs - The real cause of violent shooting sprees


http://www.naturalnews.com/036678_guns_drugs_violent_shootings.html...

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Also, this is another perfect example of why we home school.

Our kids are very well-protected in our home. (not just from random slaughters by drug-fueled/video-gamed-obsessed freaks, but by the pharmaceutical empire shooting-up the kids as well - AND all the brainwashing that goes on in the classroom (The kids are no longer taught the Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, Federalist Papers and Constitution in detail - IF AT ALL, they spoon-fed evolution and lack of 10 Commandments, etc)

At public schools, they are sitting-ducks unless Polk County and other school districts around the nation wise-up and allow teachers/principals to protect themselves and the children.

Ain't gonna happen.

What you all are witnessing is the age-old PROBLEM - REACTION - SOLUTION, whereby the government is actually CAUSING these problems, then the public reacts to these problems by demanding a solution that the government had intended the population to demand in the first place.

The solution ALWAYS involves more governmental control and less freedom for the individual.

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Now I'm not saying everyone is going off the deep end with banning this and banning that, but I have noticed over the years that parenting has slacked.  It is not the same as when my mom was a kid, when I was a kid and now as I have a kid.  I try to hold the same standards that I was brought up with and actually paret the child.  Most parents have slacked and tossed the kids in front of the TV's or gave in to them playing video games because they did not want to listen to their kids.  It's the same for those that are quick to put their kids on medication when they may not really need it.  Some just need a bit more attention or patience to help them along.

I think most parents need to step up their game and be a parent.  Teach them right from wrong and don't assume they'll know it from watching tv or at school.  If they can't notice a problem with their kid or that their kids attitude is changing for the worse, then they are not an active in their kids life.

I grew up with horror movies, playing cops and robbers, watched documentaries like Faces of Death, and did stuff.  That doesn't mean I'm going to kill someone, play with guns and such.  Also think back to the cartoons we watched growing up.  Wlie E. Coyote and Road Runner, Bugs and Daffy, and Tom and Jerry just to name a few.  They were pretty violent, but we knew from our parents telling us they are cartoons so guns and stuff will not hurt them.  They told us that if we did half of what was on there that would be dead.  Granted there was no pools of blood, but we got the picture.

I just don't see the point to banning violent video games.  They do have ratings on there just for the purpose that they are NOT kid friendly.  I've seen parents and grandparents still buy them for the kids.  Same with movies and TV shows.  They have ratings as well to tell you they are NOT kid friendly either (whether violet, nudity or language). 

It all just comes down to parents being an active role model and taking care as to what their kids are doing.  Be a parent, not just an adult who had kids and not caring what they do.  I bet if most did a day with no TV, phones, internet and just did a family day they would be surprised with their kids.

Just my opinion in the matter.

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